Wore these pants for a bear hunt in Idaho very durable and tough. Very comfortable without sacrificing rigidity. They are stretchy so if your climbing up rocks or vertical mountains your range of movement is not hindered. Very durable in the brush and quiet. I forgot my gaiters and didn't need them that's how tough these pants are would recommend for warmer conditions would not recommend for cooler conditions. It was 80 degrees in the warmest part of the day on the side of the mountain and these pants kept me cool. The "cool touch" technology is no joke and a life saver. Would make great early archery elk pants. Super quiet for stalking. Best piece of gear I had with me next to the shirt. Worth it if these conditions are what you hunt in. Did I mention the durability because if you know how the brush can get in the back country of Idaho then you know durability matters and these pants did not fail, fray, or tatter after miles of abuse and 4 solid days of use.