I really like these pants. They are comfortable and durable. I live and hunt in AZ. I hike though cactus and cat claw a lot and need strong pants that can endure. I wore these for a week long coues hunt and loved them. I could open the vents when glassing and cool off. I like the suspenders but when you are wearing a bino harness, backpack and suspenders your shoulders can develop some hot spots. They work great without the suspenders as well. The only thing I don't like is the sizing. First Lite has big sizes. I don't know if their product testers are all midwest viking descendant giants or what but all their pants are bigger than any other pants I buy even with the dimensional sizes 34x32. Also they do not offer a short version of their pants so the knee pads are more like shin pads on my dumb stubby legs. I always have to pull my pant leg up a smidge before I take a knee. All in all I do like the pants and will buy another pair in the future.