Gary Lambert Agree with you on the Permethrin and Rubber Boots. Didn't know about the Tide. Thanks for the tip. Wayne A. Derby I have been using Permethrin for more than 25 yrs and guiding for 29. No matter what brand you purchase if you follow the directions it is very effective. The key is the chemical Permethrin not the brand of repellent/killer that it is contained in so anything with Permethrin it, it Works !!!! Northern NM merriams. 17 yards with the .410 #5 Remington game loads. Poor guy lived a long time with a broad head in the roof of his mouth. So long that his skull was forming around it. Talk about a grumpy bear!#brag #bragginwall #huntingtrophy Joshua Maynard* Alaska Fish and Game tested his tooth and put him around mid 20's Bill Fox Congratulations are in order too